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Final debate gives Joe Wurzelbacher instant celebrity status

By Ryan Fowler
Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 1:59 a.m.

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His name was mentioned more than 20 times during the final presidential debate on Wednesday…“Joe the Plumber” of Holland, Ohio.  He’s a single father who describes himself simply as average.

Joe Wurzelbacher spoke with Senator Barack Obama during a campaign stop in Toledo Sunday.  Wurzelbacher told the Illinois senator his (Obama’s) tax plan would prevent him (Joe) from buying the business that currently employs him.

During Wednesday’s debate Senator John McCain used “Joe the Plumber” as an example of how small business owners would suffer under Obama. In the matter of a 90-minute debate, “Joe the Plumber” became an overnight sensation that will forever be linked to the 2008 presidential race.

NBC 24’s Ryan Fowler spoke one-on-one with “Joe the Plumber” shortly after the debate wrapped.

“I was astounded to hear my name on national television spoken by a presidential candidate. I mean it floored me,” Wurzelbacher said.

Being an “average Joe," he said, “I get up every morning at 4:30 and I go to work. I don’t get home until 6 or 7. I cook dinner. I do homework with my son. I do yard work on the weekend. That’s a typical day and I live in a typical middle class neighborhood. I’m pretty much just average. I like to live a simple life.”

On all the attention he’s received since the debate wrapped: “I’ll have my 15-minutes.  Come Nov. 4 ... if McCain wins I might have another day or two out of it. If Obama wins then I’ll be a footnote maybe at the most, I won’t be recognized again and that will be fine with me,” Wurzelbacher said.

Reaction to talking with Obama about his proposed tax plan: “I wasn’t impressed. In fact, it upset me. For someone to sit there and say you’ve done too good, and I’m going to penalize you now. In essence that’s what he said. I’m paraphrasing, but you done too good; I want some more of your money now. That’s wrong. That’s wrong across the board and I can’t imagine someone not agreeing with that. I can’t imagine America not agreeing with that,” Wurzelbacher said.

His advice to other voters: “Do your own homework. Don’t sit there and take your friends’ advice. Don’t sit there and take TV’s advice. Do your own homework. Find out what you really want instead of what your union steward wants, what anyone wants. That’s my biggest thing right there. Do your own homework,” Wurzelbacher said.

Although it seems Wurzelbacher supports McCain, he refuses to say who he plans to vote for come Nov. 4.

 

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SWINGIN SAM

Posted by J Michael, Toledo - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 1:18 p.m.

Swingin Sam as I like to call the man you all know as "Joe". We have a guy who says he's a "swing voter" who all this time wasn't pleased with what Obama had to say, his views, and his inexperience to become commander and chief. Joe im sorry to say your not going to become a congressman like people want you to be 2010(which by the way is the stupidest thing i've EVER heard, i mean why don't you get every other person who had their 15 minutes of fame and make them president, come on), your never going to own a bussines(which is what you said on T.V.) and if, if you did own this so called "plumbing bussiness" you probably wouldn't see an anual income of over $250,000 in more than ten years(which you also said on T.V.).Hey guy, Obama won't be in office in ten years and i'm sure it probably wouldn't be any better then it is already.

Joe the Plumber

Posted by Gerry Jaworski, Toledo - Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 8:10 p.m.

pretty busy schedule where he cannot go online and read both McCain and Obama's economy plan. Joe, again let us stress under McCain's plan you get no tax breaks you are not "rich". Under Obama's tax plan you must "earn" get that earn over a quarter of a million dollars before you are increased with tax. Now, that means "share the wealth" you spread that around by hiring and employing people where this would lower your "earnings". Get it? Not rocket science, but at least show you know what the actual plans mean, not because someone is flying you everywhere to embarrass Toledo with your overwhelming knowledge of our government.

Oh, no, say it ain't so, Joe

Posted by Whatever Man, Toledo - Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:56 p.m.

Betcha you didn't think about what was going to happen after that 15 minutes of fame, media camping out in your driveway, and going to New York,hmmm? Well, now the world knows your business. You let them know to much about you. $1200 in back taxes, and not a licensed plumber? Do you regret asking that question and being captured as an idiot?

Joe the Plunger

Posted by john davis, Lake Hills, Ut - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 4:17 p.m.

This guy is being used and manipulated by the desperate McSame campaign and he's STILL voting for them. Ha ha ha, gotta love his self-destructive bent.

Wow, talk about stretching the truth

Posted by wayne richards, va - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.

I find it amusing that Americans are so easy to jump a bandwagon on what someone you have no clue of is, makes a broad statement about what? Whether or not someone making a 1/4 of a million dollars a year should pay 3% more in taxes? Some of which he will be able to deduct for being a small business anyways on the bottom end. Lets face it people, any type of government is a form of socialism of some degree. And with out a progressive tax system, which our founding fathers created, who's gonna educate Joe's son, or build roads to all those houses he works in? There is something fishy about this guy, I wonder if he does septic plumbing?

Come now: Won't SAY who he's voting for?

Posted by philip avon st cyr, Cary, NC - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:14 a.m.

Folks, why wouldn't this gentleman say who he was voting for? Don't you find that odd? He's obviously a McCain or minor-party candidate voter. He has obviously made up his mind. What does it mean when someone won't say the OBVIOUS about themselves?

I suspect it's in line with him claiming Obama "tap danced" like Sammy Davis, Jr.

Let's hope this guy is NOT the average American.

You should change the name of your business to "Joe the Plumber"

Posted by Go Palin, Toledo - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 11:03 a.m.

Joe, you are living proof that average Americans ask better questions than the mainstream press! In the beginning of the dialogue Barack said that his tax plan would have helped you, but if you think about it you didn't need his plan because you were able to reach your dreams without it. If you can achieve your dreams, then anyone can! And you don't need Uncle Sam to do it.

One last thing about this "spreading the wealth around." Who beneifts when the government takes your tax dollars and spends it the way they see fit? Just over a week and a half ago 850 BILLION of our wealth was spent to bailout two horribly run mortgage institutions.

To the Obama supporter: Look at your paycheck each pay period and look at the deductions. Ask yourself if you're being under-taxed or over-taxed.

Joe, you are an inspiration!

Joe knows more

Posted by john law, Pt.Place - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 10:21 a.m.

Joe,knows more about running a business than B.Hussein Obama will EVER comprehend!The Chicago street thug ,wants to raise,income taxes,payroll taxes,fuel taxes,estate taxes,and more.Any tax CREDIT ,will be GREATLY offset by these HUGE tax increases.Recall Jimmy Carter and his Demonratic House and Senate? 21% interst rates!! 12% unemployment!!!A military as weak as a newborn!!Wealso had COMPLETE Dumborat control the first two years of Clinton,he also promised TAX CUTS! What did we get? The largest tax increase in American history!! To belive a Dimbulbocrat ,is an incredible stretch of ones belief system!Ask any Toledodan!

Way to go, Joe...

Posted by Ryan Crockett, Chicago, IL - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 9:24 a.m.

As a transplanted Toledoan now living in the People's Republic of Illinois (and wishing that I had not helped elevate Sen. Obama to the US Senate in 2004 as I did), I'm happy someone finally had the courage to ask the Senator a direct question about his tax policy. Of course, he didn't answer it, but Joe, nonetheless you've put this question on the front burner where it should be. Bravo!

Homework Assignment: Is Joe Wurzelbacher Registered to Vote?

Posted by Kawika Holbrook, California - Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 3:49 a.m.

Extra credit: Is he related to Robert M. Wurzelbacher Jr. -- a son-in-law of Charles H. Keating Jr. -- who pleaded guilty to three Federal fraud counts in connection with the collapse of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Assocation and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors as they pursue their case against Keating?

It would be nice to have clarification before taking Mr. Wurzelbacher at his word.

Regardless, his advice for voters is sound: do your homework.

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