I browsed all the contenders listet for the Progressive Automobile X competition, and this dude is not even registeret. What happened!? Did he change his mind, or was it all yet a scam?

It's hard to believe that people would act this way but I guess jealousy and lack of knowledge leads to unwavering ignorance. Like previously stated "he has nothing to prove to you folks only the automakers" If he's lying he's only fooling himself so get a life!

way to go doug kee4p up the great work. i heard alot about people doing things to increase there milage thru the years and it was said the oil co.'s bought them out before they could market there idea's. hope this does'nt happen to you and how do i sign up to get my truck done and whats the cost?

Go Doug Go...behind you all the way. Bout time for some good ole American know how!

I hope nobody believes this guy. 110mpg from a 302 V-8, and 3 seconds 0-60?
Yeah, right. It would take over 600hp to make that car do 3.0 seconds 0-60.
You have to burn lots of fuel to make that much power....it's simply a fact.
And he won't let the news people see under the hood? Not like they'd know what they were looking at, anyway.
Sad how people are so eager to believe that they ignore the laws of physics.
Sorry, but there is no magic 100mpg carburetor, you can't increase your fuel mileage by converting water to hydrogen, and nitrogen in your tires isn't any better than air.

I own an '87 Mustang 4 cylinder. My 'POS' manages 26-27 mpg highway with some regularity. '87-'93 Mustangs seem like an odd choice for an all-out MPG effort though, because of aerodynamics. A better choice would be the Merkur xr4Ti or Thunderbird, both wind tunnel perfected designs. Most people don't realize that rolling resistance and aero affect MPG drastically. This is why new Corvettes break the 30 mpg barrier, and V6 Grand Caravans don't...

This is why I do'nt believe in any religion. The oil companies become greedy satan and the con-men are the saviors. Amen , haleleuah!

Enough profits for the oil companies (control freaks). I have two ford trucks and am in need of something to help me get better mileage. The oil companies have had control for a very long time and it is time for American Citizens to take control. Keep me posted and let me know what it will cost to retrofit my trucks to save America. Thanks for you efforts. This makes you a new type of soldier. A soldier for the people instead of a soldier for our corrupt government.

Doug, As I spoke to your partner, if you need any assistance with any threats, you call me. My Rangers and I will be there to assist and stop any viable threats towards you and your kin. This invention will get off the ground and we will have America succeed again against these Communist aggresors!!!

Hoooahhh!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, we don;t congratulate someone on ENTERING a contest, anyone can do that... the time for congratulations/press releases is AFTER you can demonstrate results... a secret?? sure... but if true he could certainly demonstrate it without giving up any secrets... for example, just take us on to a test track and show us 3 second 0-60 acceleration or run off 100 miles and show us huw much fuel has been used.

Are you people for real? Seriously! If you had read anything about the competition this guy and his team has entered you would understand he has certain rules and guidelines he must follow under a legal obligation. Instead of congratulating the man, you try to condemn him. Unreal! Here is a person trying to better our economy and our world and all you can do is naysay?

This man doesn't have to prove anything to you or any news agency. All he has to do is show up with the rest of the Progressive Automotive X PRIZE contenders in the third quarter of the year 2009. "Progressive Auto X PRIZE will prove it all for everyone to see."

Go get it done Doug!

If this guy could get Ford to go in with him, Ford would do to the auto industry what windows 95 did to the computer industry. Who would buy anything but a ford if they had this technology? Ford would instantly dominate the industry and other companies would have to find new advances in mpg or shut their doors. It would save the U.S. economy if the U.S. auto makers could all share this technology.
On a separate note electric cars should be sold and supported by plug in stations at walmart etc,so you could go shopping plug in and come home. Swipe your card to pay for the electric used. We have enough wind her in the U.S. to be using at least 50% electric cars powered by the wind. If we just put the money into both. Keep moving forward and stop being bought out or shut down by gig oil, or Gov corruption.
The energy is here we just need to use our God- given abilities to continue being a great nation. If these types of inventions don't happen soon, this nation will be plunged into severe recession and inflation b/c of gas prices and the auto industries stupid lack of effort on fuel mileage. My dad's 1980 Chevy Citation got 32 mpg when on a trip. I often went 90 plus mph just b/c I was a motor head. It had 90 hp.I got used to it. Last night I saw a commercial for a small suv with a 390hp engine. Not necessary. The 1984 Vette had 225 hp and it was fast! It also got better mpg than the ones today.

The steam injection idea is a very interesting one I would like to hear more about. I live in the town where Cummins engines has it's world headquarters and builds many diesel engines for big trucks. They are always looking for ways to make their engines more efficient and get better gas mileage. The problem is that even if they had an idea that would make an engine get 20% better fuel economy than their competitor's, if they though it would cost too much to research and produce they would nix it in the first meeting.

This is where all the great ideas for fuel economy go, it's the market, stupid. BUT, if someone could come up with a one-trick pony idea that could be incorporated into current technology they will either make a fortune or they'll have a nice nap,...with the fishes.

I for one beleive the piston engine is dead. We must move beyond it now and look to the future. I like the Chevy Volt where the car is powered soley by an electric motor and carries a gasoline generator with it. It's like a plug-in hybrid and will get 150 MPG now. I would propose, though, that istead of using a gasoline powered piston engine in the genset, to use a micro-turbine natural gas powered system that is currently under development.

The current gasoline powered piston engine driven car only uses about 6% of gasoline's total potential energy. A properly made ceramic turbine using NG will up that to 40%, with no idling, drive the first 30 miles on the home charge and you could see the equivelent of 300-400 MPG.

Keep working guys, many of the innovations of current technologies came from the hot rodders of old and a beer belly does not preclude genius.

FOR SOME REASON EVERYTIME SOMEONE INVENTS SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE STANDARD OF LIVING IT SOMEHOWE ALWAYS DISAPPEARS. TAKE THE LIE DETECTOR FOR INSTANCE. WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS IN OFFICE A GENTLEMAN INVENTED A COMPUTER APPLICATION THAT WAS 99.99% ACCURATE IN TELLING IF A PERSON WAS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT. GUESS WHERE THIS IS THIS NOW??? I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT SINCE. DO YOU REALIZE IF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM HAD THIS APPLICATUION THERE WOULD BE MILLIONS OF LAWYERS AND POLITICIANS OUT OF A JOB. JUST LIKE THIS GAS SAVER INVENTION. IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS DO YOU THINK A MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY IS GOING TO LET SOME "KID" PUT A DAMPER ON THEIR BUSINESS. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD THEY ARE BUILDING BETTER SKI RESORTS INDOORS IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAN WE HAVE IN COLORADO. WHY DON'T THESE NEWS CASTERS FOLLOW UP ON THEIR REPORTS. PROBABLY BECAUSE THE INVENTORS ARE JUST LIKE JIMMY HOFFA...IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND.

Some of us know these 2 fellas well. Check records on both (professional, civil & such) and you will see discrepancies, lawsuits, etc.

With that, does anyone remember Smokey Unich of NASCAR? Smokey developed a high MPG engine. This engine used the exhaust heat to boil a water tank that injected steam into the combustion chambers. This resulted in BIG MPG benefits as well as horsepower. I think Doug's idea has a lot to do with Smokey Unich's design.

Best of luck Doug. Prove us wrong and change my opinion of you.

HOAX, HOAX, HOAX! This type of story shows up every year, and these people disappear after their 15 minutes of fame. I just hope nobody gets taken for their life's savings by these nuts.

In the bigger picture, this is simply another distraction that lets the screwy dreamers continue to hold onto their gas-guzzling monster cars with the hope that they can be retrofitted to get even moderate mileage per gallon. Publishing stories like this simply gives credibility to those looking to hold onto their huge 12-mpg Excursions so that they be be miraculously fixed one day.

Why not focus on the REAL developments such as the Aptera, the Tesla Tango, the Tata, or the plug-in Prius.

This is not responsible reporting, and WNWO looks stupid for posting and covering it.

Well this really should not be that big of a shock to anyone, first off the original t model fords got over 25 mpg, and they are 3-4 times the current weight of modern trucks. Secondly we had the technology in the early 40's to be able to wipe and entire city off the map. And some of you are going to tell me, that we cannot get a simple engine to run at 100 mpg. Obviously the reason we have never created vehicles like this, is because there was not a mass need for it. Now that there is I look for these type of engines to be in all vehicles within 10 years. Besides if you knew this guy from Napoleon, Ohio that had modified that engine, you would know that he is a man of his word, and is very well respected in our area, and would not make false claims like some morons from New York have stated in the above claims. Its unfortunate that people cannot have an open mind about new ideas and technology, just because they didnt invent it themself. I hope this family starts mass producing these engines soon, I ll buy 2.

In the late 70's, Tom Ogle did this on his T-Bird(Oglemobile).Highly publicized.His brother "and partner" was killed and a short time later he was dead.Watch out Dude!

okay, now I have read all of the posts to date.

0-60 in 3 seconds is possible in a vehicle, When I was 15 my family and I built a Cobra Replica and fabricated the frame ourselves. we had a 427 bored and stroked to a 450, we pulled 485 hp and it was 0-60 in 3 seconds flat. Granted our custom build had a very-light curb weight. His claim of that kind of acceleration IS Possible, and any muscle guy will tell you so.

110 mpg, @ 500hp,.. Suspect. I would have to see the tests to believe it. but what about controlling the heat? yes it's possible. some of these are possible solutions,..

1. hydrogen rich fuel,.. it's easy to mix hydrogen with gasoline, and it wouldn't take much. It would make the gasoline burn longer, a longer burn would mean more HP, and less Gasoline.

2. second set of injectors for H2O mist right after the ignition of the fuel. Water has a compression of about 20:1 combine that with fuel 10:1 and you would have a lot of power pushing that piston head down.

Yes these would take a ton of work to make the engine right, and it would take years of research but he did say that he has been refining the techniques for 10 years. That's about right for a mechanic working out of a garage.

Let's face it, Big Oil has bought up engine designs before, and designs that got a lot less fuel economy than what he claims.

There ARE V8 enthusiasts out there getting 45mpg out of there rigs with unusual methods and it can be done,.. why not this. Again I want a test though.

Mark H., I think you are probably correct. It's the only explanation that makes any sense. An internal combustion engine cannot possibly be made to generate the kinds of horsepower required to meet his performance claims AND get 5X the mileage of the original engine. I had to check the by line to make sure this wasn't published on April 1st.

The acid test answer to exposing this guy is to simply draw upon the 1940's logic and technology that he uses in his analalogies and to the old school MPG test. Have witnesses there from this TV station that is just using this as a gimmick to sell advertising, from the print media and from the general public. Drain the car's gas tank to make certain that there were no additives that enhance mileage and then top it off. Drive the car about 200 miles and bring it back in and see how much gas was used by topping it off again. If this pudgy charlatan refuses to do this out of the box, then this ranks right up there with the guy in Daytona Beach who bilked the poor and rich and famous alike out of many millions claiming he could turn the black volcanic beach sand of Costa Rica into gold at the cost of $30 and ounce. (Richard Brown - Goldcor. He was murdered in his home one Sunday, a crime that was never investigated for more than one minute.) Brown and this guy appear to have trouble pushing away from the dinner table. My advice to you - Never trust a fat guy with claims that he can solve one of the world's problems, especially if it is an "investment opportunity" and you are "getting in on it at the ground floor."

IC engine's inefficencies come not from the inability to burn fuel well, they come from not being able to use all the heat released from burning the fuel. The heat goes 3 places. Approximately 1/3 out the exhaust, 1/3 out the radiator and 1/3 used to push the pistons. Account for friction and inertia losses in the drive train and you come up with the less than 33% efficency that most IC engines have. Now assume this guys has done something to use all of the heat the fuel releases. If a normal car gets 25mpg this one at 100% efficent would get 75mpg. So I'm going to say unless he got something in there beside a gas or gas/alcohol burning IC engine, I doubt this is real.

Obvious ploy to get funding for something that doesn't exist, there is always an excuse as to why it hasn't come out before or that there are "patents pending". This isn't news it's a fairytale.

Ok, can I just make a statement to the conspiracy theorists out there? I am an automotive engineer who works for a Fortune 500 company. I design engines for a living. I'm always fascinated by the "100mpg engine" myth that never seems to die. Every person who repeats this ludicrous myth makes the same multiple mistakes. Allow me to address them one by one:

1. Myth: You assume that we (the companies that make the engines and vehicles) profit from increased fuel consumption.

WRONG! Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda, etc... do NOT sell, refine, transport, or pump oil! These companies absolutely do NOT profit from the sale of oil one bit. Let me tell you, fuel economy (or Brake Specific Fuel Consumption as its known to the automotive engineer) is one of the absolute highest priorities for me to maximize. If my company could produce an engine that achieved just 1% better fuel economy than our competitors with everything else equal, we'd dominate the market overnight! We make engines for customers and customers want fuel efficient engines. We don't design the engines for the terrorists in the Middle East who want us dependent on oil.

2. Myth: 100+ mpg is physically achievable on regular gasoline in a regular engine with just a little modification.

WRONG! I'll spare you all the complicated mathematical calculations but here's a quick one... even the most efficient engines being sold today are only about 40% efficient. That means that of all the chemical energy contained in gasoline, only 40% of it is being used for work. The other 60% is being dissipated as heat. Now lets suppose that through a miracle of God I was able to control heat transfer and made the engine 100% thermally efficient. That would still only be a 150% increase over what it does now (60/40*100). A 25mpg mustang (which I seriously doubt those old POS's could achieve) would still only get maybe 62.5mpg. Now with improved aerodynamics, lighter weight, regenerative braking, and some fairies you MIGHT be able to retrofit that old hunk of junk to 100 mpg for a couple of million dollars, but even then its doubtful. You're better off starting from scratch which is exactly what the companies are currently doing.

3. Myth: A patent was filed over half a century ago that defined a 100 mpg engine (or carburetor) but a company bought it and hid it so they could keep making gas guzzling engines.

WRONG! For starters refer to myth #1 with regards to why a car company would have a design for an efficient engine and not use it. Also patents are public documents. Go to Google Patents and search for 100mpg engine. You may likely find some hits (remember patents are not issued based on the legitimacy of the claim, but by the first person to make that claim). Seeing as how the document is readily available for you to see, try some of the ideas out for yourself and see if they work. Even if a company does hold the rights to the patent, you won't get in trouble unless you try to actually sell the engine. See if any of the bogus patents work. I think not. Also, patents have a limited lifespan. After 20 years a patent expires, thus even if say Ford owned the patent for the magical 100mpg engine, if it really was taken out in the 40s, the patent would have expired in the 60s. Once again, if you believe the theory is true, go find the patent yourself and prove me wrong...

Now that I've dissected the 100 mpg car myth let me make a statement. Ultimately I think everyone (except perhaps the oil companies and the countries which control the oil supply) wants us to break free of oil and find reasonable alternatives. Now that gas prices are at a record high and showing no sign of coming down, we now have the financial and political resources we need to finally make real changes. As someone who makes a living designing oil burning engines you might think I cringe at the thought of the American public no longer using engines, effectively putting me out of a job. Here's the truth to that myth: I took this job because I realized we need answers to our energy needs. Right now the best thing I can do is design better and more efficient engines. When the day comes that internal combustion engines are no longer needed I will be tickled pink and will move on to start designing the most efficient electric, fuel cell, or other powertrains in the world.

Come on this is obviously a hoax, if it was possible, some one some where would of already done it by now. Now if it was a diesel power vehicle that would be more likely, except the 180 mph top speed and 3 second 0 to 60.

I cant believe any news organization cant be so stupid to report something that is not only impossible but didnt even get a how/why it works or even a chance to look at it. Its too nothing can be done about this.

Stories like this pop up evertime the price of gas skyrockets. I find it amazing that, in spite of the best efforts by the engineers at Honda, Suzuki, Toyota, BMW, Mercedes, etc. this "lone" mechanic has succeeded where multibillion dollar companies have failed. Get real. A search of the USPTO.GOV website of issued patents and published applications shows that Douglas Pelmear has but a single patent, and that is for an "Engine Block Component Brace". Does anyone realy believe that this guy spent the money to patent an engine brace but has chosen not to patent his alleged fuel efficiency innovations?

Kudos to you Mr. Pelmear! The oil barons have kept these innovative and money saving technologies from the public for way to long. I would love to invest and help market this technology globaly. Can this technology also be used in the boating industry? Also can it be utilized with deisel engines? Please contact me so we can discuss this furthe!
Sincerely and Best of Luck to you!
-AJ

I saw an E85 sticker on the car. E85 contains 85% Ethanol, and 15% Gasoline. A lot of new cars are able to run on E85. Old cars like his, have to be adjusted in order to run on E85. I bet you he counts only the 15% Gasoline to come up with 110 mpg. My car runs on E85. If I only count the Gasoline part in my tank, I get 190 mpg. By the way, Ethanol is usualy produced out of corn, and is nothing else than high precentage alcohol. A lot of moonshiners used to drive their modified cars on even 100% Ethanol from the 40's, till today. And yes, it gives the car more HP, but is way less efficient than gas. To produce 1 gallon of E85, cost about $3.30 due to the high corn prices. I am working on a concept to produce Ethanol out of waste, but it might take me a few more years.

some of these responses are hillarious, here is a couple of guys trying to get the most economy and performance out of an engine and take back some control from the oil co.s that keep us in-line by increasing prices and gathering billions of dollars in profit for themselves, yet they still put the blame on others for the price increases, and some of you are completely knocking these guys down about their car. this technology is completely feasable and it doesn't surprise me that this started from his grandfather back in the 60's. there has been a ton of different things going on in technological advancements as well as other things that our wonderful government powers have covered up over the years and they still do. hopefully this keeps progressing and becomes available to the public in the near future. NBC24, please keep us informed on this technology. thank you

Much research is being done in the field of fuel ionization/atomization. The power to be derived from the atom is practically boundless, we see it everywhere. Consider the miniturization and consequential battery efficiency of the cell phone, for instance.
All technology is constantly being improved and refined, why not the IC engine? This car's performance may indeed be for real.
A much needed side effect would be the slashing of carbon emissions by 80%.

Well if you said you did it you probally did. Weather any of us will see it or not at least one of us is getting good mpg. I hope that it will get out to us all so wee can try betting the pumps. great job and nice car!!!

There is only so much energy in a gallon of gas. Just like a battery. You can make it go faster and farther in that you can lighten the weight, and cut wind resistance. In a car of this design, and gear ratio's, I would have to sit in it and drive it myself, before I believe it.

This thing (the 110 mpg car) is a hoax. What gives it away is the 0-60 in 3 sec claim. Some "crotch rocket" motercycles can do this. but not a car. The possibility of 500 mpg is also a suspicious claim.

Do some homework; quit picking up stories from God-knows-where and running them as-is.

I don't think it really matters if this car goes 0-60 in 3 seconds or 8 seconds. If it really gets 110 mpg, that is a breakthrough.

Where do we go to get our engines overhauled? I am waiting in line when available.

""Pelmear says it goes 0-60mph in a neck snapping three seconds,""

Look this is a news station web site did you guys bother to research this at all?

3 seconds to 60 that car will be lucky to do it in 5

It would be best if you educated yourself on a topic before you looked so ridiculous posting nonsense like this.

How can anything posted in the article be believable if you allow him to say that car will do 0-60 in 3 seconds?? LOL what a joke

For example a brand new ZR1 has a claimed 0-60 time of 3.3 seconds and will do the 1/4 mile in 10.9-11.0@130+ mph

There is not a snow ball’s chance in hell of that car in this article doing anything like that. And that also leads me to believe that his claims of 110mpg are also false

You know what they say if it smells like BS its most likely BS

WOW!!!!

I would get that car in an instant, as opposed to my 4 cylinder 32mpg sedan.

Here is hoping that this is not fluff...

...how long it takes for this story to get buried?

For years I've heard about this 'mythical' engine, developed back in the 40's or 50's, that got more than a hundred miles per gallon. So if this is true, I asked, what happened to it? Why wasn't it ever used?

The answer I always got was that the oil industry bought the patent and buried it. It obviously wasn't in their best interests to have a car out there that got that kind of mileage. People would only used a fifth as much gas!

I was always skeptical of the story - at least until I saw the story about Doug Palmear's engine - originally DEVELOPED IN THE 1940's BY HIS GRANDFATHER!!

And what do you know - there are very few web pages that come up by Googling "110 mpg" + Napoleon (Palmear's town) - and none at all if you Google "110 mpg" + Palmear - not even if you spell out the mpg part.

It's enough to make me believe all the conspiracy theorists out there - but at the same time it's very sad. At this point, I'm pretty well convinced that Greed will be at the heart of the downfall of mankind.

To achieve such performance, the Mustang would likely run a lot leaner than the typical 18:1 air to fuel ratio while employing a contraption to more completely disperse gasoline molecules. There have been any number of theories about that, including running an engine on evaporated gasoline.

I hope for all of our sakes that this is real. Until a respected lab tests it, however, it merely scratches our itching ears.

Good job Team HP2g! I hope you win the Progressive Automotive X PRIZE Competition! It would be super cool to have your technology running on the roads right now! On behalf of Ohio and the rest of the world... thank you for all your hard work!

I know something like this can defently make a big turn around for us in todays age but forgive me on being skeptical you say this was an idea back in the 40's why have we never heard of this then for I know those were hard times back then for people and for another man those so called gas gusslers it just makes you think. But hey I am not trying to say it can't happen I just would like to see it to belive it cause man those gas savers they have out are so ugly and for a person also like me who has been seriously injured from an auto accident I deffenty do not feel safe in the clown cart and for another feel that because what had happened to me should not make me have to pay an extra tax for a auto called the gas gussler tax. Its just another way for the goverment to have their slimy hands in our pockets like they don't have enough money. And just one more thing if this so called pain reliver does work what kind of price range will this be runing people and also is this one model fits all?

I hope it works like he says it does but I also hope he fares better than Stan Meyer and Tom Ogle.

Good idea, saving people money on gas.
Bad idea, taking money out of the oil company's pocket.

I'll bet my dollars against anybody's donuts that this technology never sees the light of day in production vehicles.

Channel 24, please (please) stay with this news. Please keep us updated. Don't let this invention get lost as it was lost before. The sooner this invention is made available to the rest of us, the sooner our great country can return to some sort of normality. What a difference this will make; even with gas at $4.00+ per gallon, trucks can go so much farther per gallon, our airlines can once again give us reasonable prices for tickets, our economy can grow because prices will be affordable, and I can visit those wonderful places in America that we've seen on TV and in magazines. I could go on and on but you get the idea.
Keep up the good reporting!!!!!! Don't let us down. I pray this isn't a hoax.
Larry Burnett